Meter Reads Film Critique No. 2
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Thanks for all the hard work to put this together Jonathan.
This film will have a huge impact on training in the Field. VWD
Thank you David, I really appreciate it, very, very, much!
OK, so here is my input.
There were so many good things. It is so professional and almost majestic! I love that. I love the music. I love the way the writing or printing of the words showing the credits at the beginning. I don't know the terminology so I don't know how to express it, but it's really really good.
I thought the FNs were VERY good. FNs can look so different and still be FNs.
I assume you are going to show instant reads by having someone say "apples?" or something like that to show when the read occurs during assessment.
I thought it might be cool to have someone "breathe" when you show the metab test, to show that it is a latent read. The read occurs during the exhale not the inhale, and could be latent even from that, so it would be nice to show that. Maybe you already planned that.
The "fall" is pretty long, almost a long fall. I don't think it is over 2 inches but it's close. AND you don't show a long fall which is a very common read. I think it would be good if you shorten the fall a little and then include the long fall after the fall and before the LFBD.
The tick and the stop should be included in your "instant reads" because they are only relevant if they are instant.
The clean needle starts out looking like a null needle. Toward the end it becomes a smooth rise which better fits the definition of clean.
Just a thought--when you show the null needle you could have someone saying "apples?" and maybe a couple more items to show that the needle is not reacting to what the auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more is saying.
The stage 4 doesn't "stick" after it goes up. It should stick before it falls. Perhaps this is impossible to duplicate when you are trying to perform this on a meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more. I notice it has a little bounce in it (which you probably can't do anything about). The problema problem is postulate-counter-postulate, terminal-counter-terminal, force-counter-force. It’s one thing versus another thing. You’ve got two forces or two ideas which are interlocked of comparable magnitude and the thing stops right there. All right, now with these two things one stuck against the other you get a sort of a timelessness, it floats in time. (SH Spec 82, 6111C21) 2 . a problem is a postulate-counter-postulate resulting in indecision. That is the first manifestation of problems, and the first consequence of a problem is indecision. (SH Spec 27, 6107C11) 3 . a multiple confusion. (SH Spec 26X, 6107C03) 4 . an intention counter-intention that worries the preclear. (HCOB 23 Feb 61) 5 . a problem is the conflict arising from two opposing intentions. A present time problem is one that exists in present time, in a real universe. (HCOB 3 Jul 59) 6 . something which is persisting, the as-is-ness of which cannot be attained easily. (PRO 16, 5408CM20) is it doesn't really look the way a stage 4 needle actually looks. A real stage 4 needle actually hesitates a little during the "stick" part. It goes up, sticks, and THEN falls..
I don't understand the need to show speeded and slowed falls and rises. I have never seen them to actually be relevant to auditingThe application of Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor. (Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary (C) 1975). I have never particularly noticed or noted one down during a session. In my experience, when you are auditingThe application of Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor. (Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary (C) 1975) you aren't noticing if these thing speed up or slow down. Maybe it's just me. I'm only a class 4.
I hate to sound so picky but one more thing. The rocket read (which I have never particularly noticed in a session either) isn't very well demonstrated in the film. It doesn't really slow down like an arrow shooting into water and then it has that bounce at the end.
I think it is hard to show most reads without getting that bounce at the end because you are trying to simulate a read and it's not a real read. I don't know how you would fix it….. jus sayin…….
This is a very courageous, ambitious, and adventuresome task you have taken on, Jonathan… I am in total admiration, so please don't let my critiques discourage you….
I probably saw the e-meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more reads drill film in the orgShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69), maybe more times than any other human being on the planet! hahahahaha It seems that way to ME.
I'm sure they used a similator to conjure up those perfect reads.
Thanks again, Jonathan, for taking on this task.
Feel free to call me if you want to clarify any of this.
Hugs,
Anita
Hi Jonathan, great job overall. You have made several improvements. Couple points: at 08:01 the word "existence" is misspelled.
At 08:01 - Instant F/N: Is currently shown starting with a Fall. Per the refs, it is "most usually" seen as an LF/FN or the LFBD/F/N - that's how I would prefer to show it for training.
09:53: Theta1. theta is thought, life force, elan vital, the spirit, the soul, or any other of the numerous definitions it has had for some thousands of years. (SOS, p. 4)...More Bop - Still not fast enough - I know this is hard to simulate mechanically - I just tried it myself and got a bit closer by; 1) set Sens Booster to Low 2) Sens Knob at 1 3) using a remote TATone Arm - 1. meter control lever...MORE, crank the TATone Arm - 1. meter control lever...MORE rapidly back and forth in a tight pattern, this way you can more closely approximate it. The main prob is differentiating it from a dirty needle. Perhaps, as someone suggested, if it can't be accurately simulated here, it might be best to omit it altogether.
One other minor note: The drill instructions at the beginning - at least the 2nd page of them, should go at the end, just before the drills - but you are probably planning that, anyway.
I really liked the graphics, you are doing a great job here. I can really see how this would be huge project to take on.
I thought that the Fns were not smoothly flowing and didn't always move from right to left at the same speed, and seemed to have little hitches or hangups in them, I think a realistic FN is more smoothly flowing.
I thought the tick looked more like a small fall, not 1/8" but 1/4"
The sound at the end of each read I would think should be less loud compared to the background music, it is a little jarring. I thought the other critiques I read here, Randy and Pat's were useful.
Your work is much appreciated!
Love,
Trey
Hey Jonathan, Fantastic work. Most of the reads were great. Here are some points for you:
Speeded Fall - cannot be seen really - too fast.
Rocket Read - unclear what it is on the video, it seems like several reads appear.
F/N #4- I cannot see a rythmic sweet of the dial here. I do not see any F/ N.
Change of Meter Characteristics - I cannot see any change of characteristics... A good way of showing it could be to show a TATone Arm - 1. meter control lever...MORE at 4.0, sensitivity at 32 and needle sticky, then show a TATone Arm - 1. meter control lever...MORE at 2.5, sensitivity at 5 and an F/N. for students, these things should be made VERY CLEAR as that's their first stable datum in studying about an E-Meter. This film is not really for trained auditors.
Null needle - a tick appears there as well...
- The Stage Four needle should Rise, stick, fall, rise, stick, fall... It was nearly perfect yet I would make it bigger on the meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more dial and clearer as much as possible.
That's it. Thanks so much for doing this, this film is a great contribution to mankind as well as my own Org.
Don,
Thank you for the valuable input. I wanted to touch on a couple things. Firstly, I sincerely hope the film is useful in the academy there in Israel and elsewhere. It is true that this film is a similar work to the EM-9A film, if I'm not mistaken on the number assignation. The purpose is to help train new auditors, and if it can be helpful in QualQualifications: the division on many Scientology organization boards that certified the correctness of products (including auditing levels gained) and corrected outnesses and bad products from other divisions. [[User:AntPhillips|Antony A Phillips]] 23:17, May 9, 2014 (MDT) cycles after an auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more is trained that would be superlative also! That being said, I am more than happy to make a chapter on reads in the very near future for trained auditors who either need reference, cramming, what have you. Auditors and C/S2. the C/S is the case supervisor. He has to be an accomplished and properly certified auditor and a person trained additionally to supervise cases...MORE's just need to let me know what is needed and wanted in their academy/ Qualifications DivisionThe Qualifications Division monitors not only technical quality and honesty but the administrative quality and honesty of the entire organization. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976)./Internship. I will produce it and make a chapter for the film for things such as change of meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more characteristic, attest cycles and so on per the PL or HCOBHubbard Communications Office Bulletin (technical bulletin) Also colloquially referred to as "red on white" HCOB's are always red ink on white paper..
The change of characteristic in the film currently is reflecting a change in needle characteristic, not meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more characteristic. I agree with your input on the "over time" view on the change of meter2. Hubbard Electrometer. An electronic instrument for measuring mental state and change of state in individuals, as an aid to precision and speed in auditing. The E-meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. (Scn AD)...more characteristic and will follow through on that as part of the new chapter for "seasoned" auditors. Most likely I will do some sort of a time lapse of many sessions to convey it properly and then get a critique or two on it and the whole chapter. I would like to get the cycle ended on this first though as it is now over 500 hours of my time and would like to see it to some state of fruition first. Hopefully in the next month or so I can put it together, just let me know here on the discussion guys what you would like to see in that chapter for the seasoned auditors.
I will be placing an index in the front of the film with Names of chapters, length of the chapter, and the video time start point of each chapter for ease of use. Once everything is codified, rendered, and every clip is in the right place(s). That should save time in the Academy and for qual instructs and crams especially.
Thank you and much ARC1. a word from the initial letters of Affinity, Reality, Communication which together equate to Understanding. It is pronounced by stating its letters, A-R- C. To Scientologists it has come to mean good feeling, love or friendliness, such as “He was in ARC with his friend.” One does not, however, fall out of ARC, he has an ARC break. (LRH Def. Notes)...more,
Jonathan
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