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Mayo was confused019:02, June 26, 2018

Mayo was confused

David gives some good historical data in this essay but, in the end, he exposes and continues to propagate certain confusions about the state of clear.

The state of clear is a very definite thing which can be easily identified and acknowledged by a competent auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more. It is a milestone on the bridge from human to OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More.

I would agree that the evolution of casethe whole sum of past by-passed charge. (HCOB 19 Aug 63) gain with any individual is a gradient scale and the state of clear in no way indicates that a person has handled ALL casethe whole sum of past by-passed charge. (HCOB 19 Aug 63). Far from it.

So using the term "clear" in a generic sense, I would agree with David that there exists a 'potential' for ever greater clear...ness. But we could just as easily substitute the term "OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More" here as well. OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More is a gradient scale of potential and ever increasing gain. OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More...ness if you will.

But there ARE markers along the way which can be given arbitrary designations such as with any of the grades of Scientology.

Clear is such a marker. There is a point when a being realizes certain things about himself and has regained a certain level of causation over his own mind3. a network of communications and pictures, energies and masses, which are brought into being by the activities of the thetan versus the physical universe or other thetans. The mind is a communication and control system between the thetan and his environment. (FOT, p. 56)...MORE and universe.

One such point is called Clear3. a Clear is not an all-knowing being. A Clear is somebody who has lost the mass, energy, space and time connected with the thing called mind . ( SH Spec 80, 6609C08) ...more!

Dl88008 (talk)19:02, June 26, 2018