Talk:What is Ron's Org

The Big Picture -- Dex Gelfand 13:21, 14 January 2012 (MST)

Hello Max, thank you for this, and I hope you can have my response:

I have always been a supporter of Ron's OrgsShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69). The person I have chosen, and completely trust, and used for my own solo auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more training and supervising, was trained through Class VIIIThe Class VIII Course teaches exact handling of all cases up to 100 per cent result, as well as Class VIII procedures, all case setup actions, all processes and corrective actions, as well as flubless Class VIII auditing. (Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary (C) 1975) at Ron's Org. On my own "Free Scientologist" Facebook group, which does include some Ron's Org devotees, I have made my admiration and respect for all that Ron's OrgsShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69) are and do known. On occasions where I have heard or observed others making degrading statements of Ron's OrgsShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69), I have always pointed out that Ron's OrgsShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69) are the most productive Scientology organization on the planet, and that I've known many people who have at least done a portion of the CBR OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More levels, and that not one of them complained about it.

What bothers me is your attitude and statement about what others choose to do- "cheap copies"- that is an opinion, and an offensive and degrading statement to many. I've learned enough about Idenics to respect it, also Knowledgism, Games Matrix Processing, and gained invaluable useful information from studying John McMasters' lectures on Power Processing, which, like it or not, give needed and important depth to understanding how to runUndergo processing. (Science of Survival, p.75) Power, that is unavailable in LRHL. Ron Hubbard's materials.

I am a dedicated student of LRHL. Ron Hubbard material, I am always studying and learning from his lectures and books materials, going all the way back to 1950. I also take full advantage of learning from the researchers that Ron employed, worked with and learned from, and these include Alan Walters (Alan, founder of Knowledgism, is the creator of, among other things, the L1C), John Galusha (creator of Idenics, and a key researcher of engram1. a mental image picture which is a recording of a time of physical pain and unconsciousness. It must by definition have impact or injury as part of its content. (HCOB 23 Apr 69) 2. a specialized kind of facsimile. This differs from other mental pictures because it contains, as part of its content, unconsciousness and physical pain. (Dn 55!, p. 12) 3. a complete recording, down to the last accurate detail, of every perception present in a moment of partial or full unconsciousness. (Scn 0-8, p. 11)...more running and creative processing for LRHL. Ron Hubbard), John McMasters (the main person involved in piloting and developing Power Processing) and others of similar importance. I do not demand that you embrace my path in order for me to support you, and I would ask that you grant the same to myself and others.

I grant beingness to all who study and apply any Scientology or Scientology-related materials for the benefit of themselves and/or others. I do understand that we all choose our particular means because we feel it is the best way to go. I don't think that this is an excuse to make degrading statements (like "cheap copies") about what others are having success with. This is one reason whyThat basic outness found which will lead to a recovery of stats. (HCO PL 13 Oct 70 II), although I have not (at least so far) embraced the "CBR Bridge1. the route to Clear, the Bridge , which we call the Classification, Gradation and Awareness Chart. (Aud 107 ASNO) 2. a term originating in early Dn days to symbolize travel from unknowingness to revelation. (Aud 72 ASNO).", I never condone the degrading statements made by others about it. (As I'm sure you know, there are those people who ridicule Bill Robertson and the OTOperating Thetan - 7. this state of being is attained by drills and familiarity after the state of Clear has been obtained. A real OT has no reactive bank, is cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought and is completely free. (HCOB 12 Jul 65)...More Levels he is responsible for disseminating and implementing.)

I think that when a person degrades what others practice, he is contributing to the creation of a game whereby his own choice of practice will be similarly degraded, as well as that of others, and the end result is division and opposition, where none should exist. I think we should all be supportive of each other, while practicing and disseminating what each of us is personally excited about or committed to, and unless and until that happens, we will not see the kind of unity that you (and I) envision, and we will all be smaller and more vulnerable, and less effective.

Max, undeniably, you and your organization have done and are doing great things. So have others. My postulate and intention is that we create a bigger effect by doing great things together.

Love, Dex

Dexter Gelfand, Free Scientologist Power Processing Specialist http://community.freezone-tech.info/dexter/