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AntPhillips: It is now posted

2018-06-26T16:55:26Z

It is now posted

AntPhillips: /* A Better Definition? */Added footnote on missing bulletins.

2018-06-26T16:09:41Z

‎A Better Definition?: Added footnote on missing bulletins.

AntPhillips: Added what might have been Ron's last bulletin on clear

2018-06-08T11:50:43Z

Added what might have been Ron's last bulletin on clear

AntPhillips: And to footnote 3 – change line under references.

2018-06-08T11:16:55Z

And to footnote 3 – change line under references.

AntPhillips: /* by David Mayo */ 2nd attempt

2018-06-08T10:43:09Z

‎by David Mayo: 2nd attempt

AntPhillips: /* by David Mayo */ added the 2nd bulletin

2018-06-08T10:36:01Z

‎by David Mayo: added the 2nd bulletin

AntPhillips: /* by David Mayo */attempt at more direct link

2018-06-07T17:13:52Z

‎by David Mayo: attempt at more direct link

AntPhillips: /* by David Mayo */ headed file and extra note

2018-06-07T17:09:42Z

‎by David Mayo: headed file and extra note

AntPhillips: /* A Better Definition? */ typo

2018-05-20T12:33:23Z

‎A Better Definition?: typo

AntPhillips: /* Additional relevant material */ add footnote heading

2018-03-21T14:27:45Z

‎Additional relevant material: add footnote heading

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 "Clears" have always had trouble explaining why they still act reactively at times, or a lot of the time, and why they still have problems in life and in getting along with people. The amount of mileage you can get from the notion of a "cleared Cannibal"<ref>Cleared cannibal, the individual without engrams seeks survival along all the dynamics in accordance with his breadth of understanding. This does not mean that a Zulu who has been '''cleared''' of all his engrams would not continue to eat missionaries if he were a''' cannibal''' by education; but it does mean that he would be as rational as possible about eating missionaries; further, it will be easier to re-educate him about eating missionaries if he were a''' Clear'''. (''Science of Survival  '', p. 110). <small> taken from the Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary, 1975</small.></ref> is very limited. Even a cleared cannibal, if he were really clear, would get along wonderfully in life, never manifest misemotion, and love all his fellow beings, even as he was having their bodies for dinner!
 The idea of "harmonics of clear" is quite accurate. The main reason why LRH blew up at the idea of "harmonics of clear", as expressed in the HCOB I wrote<ref> So far we have  not been able to find what David Mayo wrote. HCO Bulletin the 14th of December 1981, entitled "THE STATE OF CLEAR" is a two-page Bulletin. It states "A clear is a being who no longer has his own reactive mind. The only exception, very, very, very rare, is one who did not have a reactive mind in the first place." See the bulletin [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/85/ClearDMayoarticle4.pdf]].</ref>, was, as he told me, that this idea tended to leave him open to the charge that the claims he had made in ''DMSMH'' and elsewhere concerning the "state of clear" were fraudulent.
 The truth appears to be that there are various stages of release, at each one of which you are clear-er than you were. A person experiencing the glee of insanity is clear-''er'' than someone who is just completely unconscious. It was PR and marketing considerations that led Hubbard to decide that certain people were "clear" at a certain point, and that they therefore had no reactive mind. However this assertion is a lie, and a very destructive one, one that denies case gain to a great many people and provides a too-convenient rabbit button for pc's, auditors and C/S's who are having trouble with the pc's case. The claim that case and ethics problems can be  caused by being clear was:<br />

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 "Clears" have always had trouble explaining why they still act reactively at times, or a lot of the time, and why they still have problems in life and in getting along with people. The amount of mileage you can get from the notion of a "cleared Cannibal"<ref>Cleared cannibal, the individual without engrams seeks survival along all the dynamics in accordance with his breadth of understanding. This does not mean that a Zulu who has been '''cleared''' of all his engrams would not continue to eat missionaries if he were a''' cannibal''' by education; but it does mean that he would be as rational as possible about eating missionaries; further, it will be easier to re-educate him about eating missionaries if he were a''' Clear'''. (''Science of Survival  '', p. 110). <small> taken from the Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary, 1975</small.></ref> is very limited. Even a cleared cannibal, if he were really clear, would get along wonderfully in life, never manifest misemotion, and love all his fellow beings, even as he was having their bodies for dinner!
-The idea of "harmonics of clear" is quite accurate. The main reason why LRH blew up at the idea of "harmonics of clear", as expressed in the HCOB I wrote<ref> So far we have  not been able to find what David Mayo wrote. HCO Bulletin the 14th of December 1981, entitled "THE STATE OF CLEAR" is a two-page Bulletin. It states "A clear is a being who no longer has his own reactive mind. The only exception, very, very, very rare, is one who did not have a reactive mind in the first place."  ---  This footnote to be extended and possibly the bulletin posted. Ant 9th of March 2018</ref>, was, as he told me, that this idea tended to leave him open to the charge that the claims he had made in ''DMSMH'' and elsewhere concerning the "state of clear" were fraudulent.
+The idea of "harmonics of clear" is quite accurate. The main reason why LRH blew up at the idea of "harmonics of clear", as expressed in the HCOB I wrote<ref> So far we have  not been able to find what David Mayo wrote. HCO Bulletin the 14th of December 1981, entitled "THE STATE OF CLEAR" is a two-page Bulletin. It states "A clear is a being who no longer has his own reactive mind. The only exception, very, very, very rare, is one who did not have a reactive mind in the first place." See the bulletin [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/85/ClearDMayoarticle4.pdf]].</ref>, was, as he told me, that this idea tended to leave him open to the charge that the claims he had made in ''DMSMH'' and elsewhere concerning the "state of clear" were fraudulent.
 The truth appears to be that there are various stages of release, at each one of which you are clear-er than you were. A person experiencing the glee of insanity is clear-''er'' than someone who is just completely unconscious. It was PR and marketing considerations that led Hubbard to decide that certain people were "clear" at a certain point, and that they therefore had no reactive mind. However this assertion is a lie, and a very destructive one, one that denies case gain to a great many people and provides a too-convenient rabbit button for pc's, auditors and C/S's who are having trouble with the pc's case. The claim that case and ethics problems can be  caused by being clear was:<br />
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 === Additional relevant material===
 HCO Bulletin the 24th of September 1978 issue IV revised 2 October 1980 [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/1/12/State_of_Clear_24SEP1978RIV_Rev_1980.pdf]]

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 ==by David Mayo==
-In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978. The full version of that bulletin will be found at the following link, see 2nd page heading "DIANETIC CLEAR:" [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/d/d0/ClearDMayoarticle1.pdf]] Note that the parts in italics were added in 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979. For full bulletin see [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/8f/ClearDMayoarticle2.pdf]].</ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978.</ref>.
+In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978. The full version of that bulletin will be found at the following link, see 2nd page heading "DIANETIC CLEAR:" [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/d/d0/ClearDMayoarticle1.pdf]] Note that the parts in italics were added in 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979. For full bulletin see [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/8f/ClearDMayoarticle2.pdf]].</ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978. See [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/e/eb/ClearDMayoarticle3.pdf]]</ref>.
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 == References==
-The following are the HCO Bulletins referred to:<br />
+Links the bulletins referred to (where we can get hold them) will be found in the footnotes.
-[links to be put in here, possibly in the order mentioned in the article].
 === Additional relevant material===

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 ==by David Mayo==
-In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978. The full version of that bulletin will be found at the following link, see 2nd page heading "DIANETIC CLEAR:" [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/d/d0/ClearDMayoarticle1.pdf]] Note that the parts in italics were added in 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979. For full bulletin see [[scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/8f/ClearDMayoarticle2.pdf]].</ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978.</ref>.
+In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978. The full version of that bulletin will be found at the following link, see 2nd page heading "DIANETIC CLEAR:" [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/d/d0/ClearDMayoarticle1.pdf]] Note that the parts in italics were added in 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979. For full bulletin see [[http://scientolipedia.org/w/images/8/8f/ClearDMayoarticle2.pdf]].</ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978.</ref>.
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 ==by David Mayo==
-In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979  </ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978.</ref>.
+In late 1978, the state of "dianetic clear"<ref>''"DIANETICS CLEAR: The state of clear can be achieved on Dianetics."'' From HCO bulletin of 25th of June 1970 RA, Issue II, revised 6 October 1978. The full version of that bulletin will be found at the following link, see 2nd page heading "DIANETIC CLEAR:" [[File:ClearDMayoarticle1.pdf]] Note that the parts in italics were added in 1978.</ref> was announced. Within a few months two other "states of clear" were introduced: the state of "natural clear"<ref>"Technically, very few thetans have never been anything but Clear. ''These few did not "go Clear" on anything; they have simply always been Clear. ''" (The italic indicates an addition in the revised version) HCO Bulletin of 5 March 1979R revised 6 March 1979  </ref> and the state of "past life clear"<ref> "We are coming up with quite a few pcs who had gone Clear in their last lifetime during Book One auditing, Goals Processing, etc. This is something that the pc originates or something he has been "wondering about" but invalidated." From HCO Bulletin of 29 November 1978.</ref>.
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 a) Felt unethical about letting the person attest, or
 b) Tried to handle it and ended up involuntarily invalidating the pc.
 == History==

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		+	'''Footnotes:'''