Ken Ogger - Revision history

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Text replacement - "'''''NOTE: This article discusses an offshoot. Offshoots are considered something OTHER than Scientology, as they were not developed by L. Ron Hubbard, and they have never been practiced in any Scientology Church.'''''<br /><br /> " to "{{Offshoot}}"

Bikoswartz at 03:48, May 27, 2017

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AntPhillips: /* Books and Links */ added link to Scientology Reformer's Homepage

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‎Books and Links: added link to Scientology Reformer's Homepage

AntPhillips: /* Books and Links */ added number of pages

2016-03-10T18:52:00Z

‎Books and Links: added number of pages

AntPhillips: changes to headings, data on book, dropped Disqua (not being used)

2016-03-10T18:43:38Z

changes to headings, data on book, dropped Disqua (not being used)

AntPhillips: Moved picture down after end of bio - removed out date email add

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AntPhillips: /* Autobiography */ another picture at end (cant get caption in!)

2015-09-18T18:00:48Z

‎Autobiography: another picture at end (cant get caption in!)

2briancox at 02:19, June 11, 2015

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 The Pilot (Ken Ogger) played a notable part in the exodus from Scientology Church from 1997 when he published his ''Super Scio'' book (800 A4 pages), his ''Scientology Reformers Home Page'' (36 A4 Pages also in 1997) and his book ''Self Clearing'' (May 1998  332 A4 pages, revised 2004 392 pages). These were all published on the Internet, under the pseudonym "The Pilot" to the newsgroups alt.religion.scientology and alt clearing.technology. He sent them from "pilot@hiddenplace.com", an address which did not exist (he could not be traced from that address).  It should be noted that at that time the Church of Scientology (etc.) were not aware of the danger of the Internet to their "monopoly" of Scientology, and their members could communicate to the internet, writing possibly through sites which made them anonymous.  From 25 Aug 1997 Ken started sending fortnightly postings to the Internet, which again could not be traced to him, the originator (they are filed at http://www.freezoneearth.org/pilot/posts/eframeset.htm , selection were sent weekly with comments to: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?27983-The-Pilot-Excerpts-from-his-Writings ). Thus any "Church" member could read what he wrote, and the "Church" had not installed later attempts (like early on the "net nanny" and later, rules suggesting looking at Internet was an overt) some (in and out of the "church") wrote to him via the internet public newsgroups, and he answered or commented on their posts every fortnight until 2000. Those postings (which contain some two-way comm) give some picture of conditions in broader Scientology at that time.

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 The Pilot (Ken Ogger) played a notable part in the exodus from Scientology Church from 1997 when he published his ''Super Scio'' book (800 A4 pages), his ''Scientology Reformers Home Page'' (36 A4 Pages also in 1997) and his book ''Self Clearing'' (May 1998  332 A4 pages, revised 2004 392 pages). These were all published on the Internet, under the pseudonym "The Pilot" to the newsgroups alt.religion.scientology and alt clearing.technology. He sent them from "pilot@hiddenplace.com", an address which did not exist (he could not be traced from that address).  It should be noted that at that time the Church of Scientology (etc.) were not aware of the danger of the Internet to their "monopoly" of Scientology, and their members could communicate to the internet, writing possibly through sites which made them anonymous.  From 25 Aug 1997 Ken started sending fortnightly postings to the Internet, which again could not be traced to him, the originator (they are filed at http://www.freezoneearth.org/pilot/posts/eframeset.htm , selection were sent weekly with comments to: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?27983-The-Pilot-Excerpts-from-his-Writings ). Thus any "Church" member could read what he wrote, and the "Church" had not installed later attempts (like early on the "net nanny" and later, rules suggesting looking at Internet was an overt) some (in and out of the "church") wrote to him via the internet public newsgroups, and he answered or commented on their posts every fortnight until 2000. Those postings (which contain some two-way comm) give some picture of conditions in broader Scientology at that time.

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	You will find at http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy83.pdf the memorial issue of ''International Viewpoints'' (''IVy'') which was issued shortly after The Pilot's death, the biography he issued shortly after his wife had given him away to the "Church" and other background articles.		You will find at http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy83.pdf the memorial issue of ''International Viewpoints'' (''IVy'') which was issued shortly after The Pilot's death, the biography he issued shortly after his wife had given him away to the "Church" and other background articles.
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		+	His Scientology Reformer's Homepage, posted on the Internet at a time when the church was not aware of the danger of truth coming to their members through the Internet, was a notable "blow to the enemy". [http://freezoneearth.org/pilot/reformer.html See it here.]

	He was (English understatement) a slightly remarkable man. [[Antony A Phillips]] 21st. April 2014		He was (English understatement) a slightly remarkable man. [[Antony A Phillips]] 21st. April 2014

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 The Pilot wrote two books while he was anonymous and hidden. Both were issued electronically via the Internet to the two newsgroups which covered Scientology at that time.<br />
-The first was called ''Super Scio'', is Copyright 1997, written in Word format, and is A4/ letter size. It contains a very wide variety of speculations and data on Scientology. One of the interesting parts is the chapter on Cosmic History where he gives a fairly comprehensive, though speculative, history of thetans through a series of universes and this can be found at [[http://www.Cosmichistory.info/articledetails.php?id_art=71]] . The full book is downloadable from [[http://freezoneearth.org/downloads/files.html]].<br />
+The first was called ''Super Scio'', is Copyright 1997, written in Word format, is A4/ letter size and contains 832 pages. It contains a very wide variety of speculations and data on Scientology. One of the interesting parts is the chapter on Cosmic History where he gives a fairly comprehensive, though speculative, history of thetans through a series of universes and this can be found at [[http://www.Cosmichistory.info/articledetails.php?id_art=71]] . The full book is downloadable from [[http://freezoneearth.org/downloads/files.html]].<br />
 The second book he wrote was called ''Self Clearing'' gives a very basic and comprehensive rundown for auditing oneself, which could be usable by a number of people. See the Scientolipedia article at [[http://scientolipedia.org/info/Self_Clearing_by_The_Pilot]]

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 The Pilot (Ken Ogger) played a notable part in the exodus from Scientology Church from 1997 when he published his ''Super Scio'' book (800 A4 pages), his ''Scientology Reformers Home Page'' (36 A4 Pages also in 1997) and his book ''Self Clearing'' (May 1998  332 A4 pages, revised 2004 392 pages). These were all published on the Internet, under the pseudonym "The Pilot" to the newsgroups alt.religion.scientology and alt clearing.technology. He sent them from "pilot@hiddenplace.com", an address which did not exist (he could not be traced from that address).  It should be noted that at that time the Church of Scientology (etc.) were not aware of the danger of the Internet to their "monopoly" of Scientology, and their members could communicate to the internet, writing possibly through sites which made them anonymous.  From 25 Aug 1997 Ken started sending fortnightly postings to the Internet, which again could not be traced to him, the originator (they are filed at http://www.freezoneearth.org/pilot/posts/eframeset.htm , selection were sent weekly with comments to: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?27983-The-Pilot-Excerpts-from-his-Writings ). Thus any "Church" member could read what he wrote, and the "Church" had not installed later attempts (like early on the "net nanny" and later, rules suggesting looking at Internet was an overt) some (in and out of the "church") wrote to him via the internet public newsgroups, and he answered or commented on their posts every fortnight until 2000. Those postings (which contain some two-way comm) give some picture of conditions in broader Scientology at that time.
-== Brief history ==
+== Brief History ==
 Ken was born on January 24, 1949. His mother was Louise Kelly. He never met his father who had tried to kill his mother, and as a result was denied access.  Ken was brought up in the family of his grandfather, and took his grandfather's surname. His identity was revealed to the Church by his estranged wife in 1999, and after that he caved in (deep apathy), had landed in hospital and was unconscious for about a month, and eventually committed suicide in 2007 in a way that made it look like murder. To this day there appear to be people who believe the "Church" murdered him.
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 He wrote to me and Heidrun Beer the following Biography. At that time he was aware of the possibility of the "Church" of Scientology finding out who he was and taking drastic action against him. I don't believe it has been published before now (2014).  You can find the biography he published when his wife revealed him in ''IVy'' 83 ( http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy83.pdf ) page 8, a memorial issue, together with much other data and remarks about him.  The following I have not edited (leaving his spelling as-is - spelling was something he was not particularly OT about :) )
-== Answer to Ant's request for a biography ==
+== Answer to Ant's Request for a Biography ==
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-== (Ant postscript)  ==
+== Books and Links  ==
 You will find at http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy83.pdf the memorial issue of ''International Viewpoints'' (''IVy'') which was issued shortly after The Pilot's death, the biography he issued shortly after his wife had given him away to the "Church" and other background articles.
 He was (English understatement) a slightly remarkable man. [[Antony A Phillips]] 21st. April 2014
 [[Category:Personal Profiles]]
 [[Category:Biographies]]

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 == Brief history ==
-Ken was born on January 24, 1949. His mother was Louise Kelly. He never met his father who had tried to kill his mother, and as a result was denied access.  Ken was brought up in the family of his grandfather, and took his grandfather's surname. His identity was revealed to the Church by his estranged wife in 1999, and after that he caved in (deep apathy), had landed in hospital and was unconscious for about a month, and eventually committed suicide in 2007, in a way that made it look like murder. To this day there appear to be people who believe the "Church" murdered him.
+Ken was born on January 24, 1949. His mother was Louise Kelly. He never met his father who had tried to kill his mother, and as a result was denied access.  Ken was brought up in the family of his grandfather, and took his grandfather's surname. His identity was revealed to the Church by his estranged wife in 1999, and after that he caved in (deep apathy), had landed in hospital and was unconscious for about a month, and eventually committed suicide in 2007 in a way that made it look like murder. To this day there appear to be people who believe the "Church" murdered him.
 He wrote to me and Heidrun Beer the following Biography. At that time he was aware of the possibility of the "Church" of Scientology finding out who he was and taking drastic action against him. I don't believe it has been published before now (2014).  You can find the biography he published when his wife revealed him in ''IVy'' 83 ( http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy83.pdf ) page 8, a memorial issue, together with much other data and remarks about him.  The following I have not edited (leaving his spelling as-is - spelling was something he was not particularly OT about :) )
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 certainty business is money making bullshit and
 wouldn't go back.
-[[File:Ken Ogger piano318x.jpg|725px|left|Ken was also a keen piano-player]]
 Just this once I needed to run off at the mouth
 because I've been keeping this all so hidden for
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 You know who.
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 == (Ant postscript)  ==

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+|Deceased=Yes
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+|Died on=May 28, 2007
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 The Pilot (Ken Ogger) played a notable part in the exodus from Scientology Church from 1997 when he published his ''Super Scio'' book (800 A4 pages), his ''Scientology Reformers Home Page'' (36 A4 Pages also in 1997) and his book ''Self Clearing'' (May 1998  332 A4 pages, revised 2004 392 pages). These were all published on the Internet, under the pseudonym "The Pilot" to the newsgroups alt.religion.scientology and alt clearing.technology. He sent them from "pilot@hiddenplace.com", an address which did not exist (he could not be traced from that address).  It should be noted that at that time the Church of Scientology (etc.) were not aware of the danger of the Internet to their "monopoly" of Scientology, and their members could communicate to the internet, writing possibly through sites which made them anonymous.  From 25 Aug 1997 Ken started sending fortnightly postings to the Internet, which again could not be traced to him, the originator (they are filed at http://www.freezoneearth.org/pilot/posts/eframeset.htm , selection were sent weekly with comments to: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?27983-The-Pilot-Excerpts-from-his-Writings ). Thus any "Church" member could read what he wrote, and the "Church" had not installed later attempts (like early on the "net nanny" and later, rules suggesting looking at Internet was an overt) some (in and out of the "church") wrote to him via the internet public newsgroups, and he answered or commented on their posts every fortnight until 2000. Those postings (which contain some two-way comm) give some picture of conditions in broader Scientology at that time.

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